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 on: July 08, 2020, 08:12:36 PM 
Started by seuntjens - Last post by seuntjens
Hello all,

To anyone selling or or had any leads for very good or NOS Zenith Wincharger, complete with tower and wires/controls, please find me at seuntjens@gmail.com.     I would like to have it inside my workshop as a central conversation piece.     I am near Sioux City, Iowa.

Thanks much, and best to everyone!

Jeff Seuntjens

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 on: April 16, 2020, 09:44:57 AM 
Started by Mike - Last post by Mike
I guess you are asking the air foil shape for pre-1940 Winchargers?  The early Winchargers, 6 & 32Vs and many of the other manufacture prop shape had a flat high pressure side (concave side on the Gottingen 222).  I don't know what that particular air foil shape is called.  Many were also tapered or narrower at the end.   

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 on: April 16, 2020, 07:30:35 AM 
Started by Mike - Last post by Carlos
Hi Mike, very good job on the propeller, I wanted to ask you what profile the generator model originally had, thanks greetings

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 on: February 18, 2020, 04:26:30 PM 
Started by Jdempster - Last post by Jdempster
I have had these for about 40 years.  Carried to 3 different houses/moves/states.  Never got the company going I wanted to sell Windmills and Windchargers.  These are sold as a single lot.  WILL Ship, let me know your preferred carrier and I will arrange pickup.  Zip code is 32030 (Florida panhandle).  Price for all 3 is $2,700.  You can reach me at 908 413 2889.  SMS is OK.  thanks, Joe

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 on: January 13, 2020, 12:22:31 PM 
Started by VASSILE52 - Last post by VASSILE52
https://www.trylon.com/lightdutytowers/pdfs/CDN%20Titan%20Tower%20Section%20of%20Catalogue.pdf

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 on: January 10, 2020, 12:46:09 PM 
Started by VASSILE52 - Last post by Mike
Found some info on tower size and shipping weights.  This document is from Delco Hi Power literature.  It appears they used Wincharger towers. 

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 on: January 09, 2020, 06:49:13 PM 
Started by bikeclub - Last post by hybridhomey
Great question. The short answer is REA policy guidelines migrated into the individual cooperatives. i would say the most probably location to identify them would be in REA records in the national archives

A few introductory comments to place the issue in a broader scope. The wind charge industry of the 1930's is intimately connected to the farm electric plant industry that grew out of introduction of Charles Kettering's 32 v. Delco-Light Farm Electric Light and Power Plant introduced in 1916. D-L sales reached 175,000 by 1921, 335,000 by 1928, and 500,000 by 1935 and had a 50% market share which would lead to industry sales if 1M units. in the early 1920's there were 120 manufacturers producing competing farm electric plants.

Small wind chargers were popularized with the radio in 1925 and would grow in size to be used with farm electric plants and sometimes as a stand alone power plant. In the 1970's, I bought over 80 1930's and 40's wind chargers - mostly Jacobs and mostly from the Medicine Hat, Alberta area. I had to take down about 1/2 of them. I also engaged many owners and inquired about 32 v appliances and would frequently be asked if i was interested in their old farm electric plant too. I would eventually buy about a dozen farm electric plants - Delco, Kohler, Jacobs, Winpower, and Fairbanks-Morse which was produced by Onan. As the GM HiPower ad indicates - a wind charger reduces fuel consumption, extends engine life, and allows a smaller battery to be used. So there were two popular wind systems - a pure wind battery system or a hybrid farm/wind/battery system. I do not know the ratio but i suspect that a majority of wind charger were mated to a farm electric plant. i would be interested in comments on this. M.L Jacobs had a Delco-Light on the family farm that he grew up on.

Finally, I am amazed about how little documentation is available on the farm electric industry. It was a very significant industry when you consider the manufacturers, appliance suppliers, dealers, installers, and service personnel. It seems to have been lost to history. Dr. Delco's documentation is the only significant collection of information that I have been able to find. I have not been able to find any mention in historical documents that I have examined on general electric system development and policy.

With respect to removing the farm and wind electric plants by REA. There were both social and policy parts to this. Anecdotal evidence is difficult as noted that most people involved have passed away. A few stories come to mind. I believe REA or Co-ops had a minimum number of hook-ups/mile to qualify for electric service and that existing power equipment was not compatible and had to be removed. An interesting spin is that on a road with a few farm or wind electric plants the farmers without electricity would pressure their neighbors to get rid of the wind/farm plants so they could all qualify to get "free" electricity. I have talked to others many years ago that confirmed the get rid of the farm/wind plant policy. It is interesting that in many cases the batteries were salvaged and i suspect the co-ops also hauled away the farm power plants for scrap metal. I say this because to this day farm electric plants are rare at antique engine shows and knowledge is limited amount. enthusiasts.

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 on: January 08, 2020, 07:58:07 PM 
Started by bikeclub - Last post by Mike
Great question.  Was it a mandate from the federal agency, a practice by power companies to monopolize electricity or simply a safety precaution by field electricians?  And then is there any documentation other than what's been passed down from those that were there?  Please let us know what you find out.  

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 on: January 08, 2020, 05:09:05 PM 
Started by VASSILE52 - Last post by VASSILE52
Tnx for answer .

I will be happy to have the dimensions , please  .

Tnx in advance !

Vasile Pop

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 on: January 08, 2020, 05:02:29 PM 
Started by bikeclub - Last post by bikeclub
Hi all,

I'm new to the forum. I'm a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology writing a book about alternative paths for the grid, and I've become interested in the early history of wind chargers in rural electrification as a historical model for thinking about how we think about other distributed energy resources today.

I would like to verify the existence of, and understand the thinking behind, a particular aspect of early rural electrification. I read somewhere that in order to connect to a rural electric cooperative, farmers could not have independent generating equipment. Either the Rural Electrification Act required that farmers did not have generating plants; or they had to destroy their independent equipment, appliances, and windmills; or utility companies and cooperatives refused to connect farms that had working wind generating plants.

Do you know of any way to verify this? Ways that I've thought about this would be to:
-- historical archives for the REA, NELA, CREA, etc.
-- look at particular agency or company historical archives
-- interview a person who was there: wind-electric dealers; someone who lived on a farm with a wind-charger; electric coop or IOU staff; etc.

Or if you can suggest any general wind-electric historical archives that would help me get started, I'm very new to this topic.

My office contact details are below, and I'd welcome any suggestions or pointers that you all have.

David Hsu
Associate Professor
MIT Dept. of Urban Studies & Planning
(email) ydh@mit.edu
(office) building 9, room 434, 77 Mass. Ave., Cambridge, MA 02139
(tel) 617.324.6288
(web) https://dusp.mit.edu/faculty/david-hsu

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